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Obama to suffer same fate as Carter?
Look to 1980s election for what might happen this year. A snippet
Policy in an Age of Limits
by W. Carl Biven
Woodward describes Alan Blinder, soon to be a member of Clinton's Council of Economic Advisers and later to be appointed to membership on the Federal Reserve Board, as telling the soon-to-be president that with a cooperative Federal Reserve and bond market, deficit reduction could be relatively cost-less in terms of the effect on economic activity. "'But after ten years of fiscal shenanigans,' Blinder quickly pointed out . . . 'the bond market will not likely respond.' At the President-elect's end of the table, Clinton's face turned red with anger and disbelief. 'You mean to tell me that the success of the program and my reelection hinges on the Federal Reserve and a bunch of . . . bond traders?'"[32] Woodward reports that from around the table there was not a dissent. James Carville, chief strategist for the Clinton campaign, was later quoted by Woodward as saying: "I used to think if there was reincarnation, I wanted to come back as the president or the pope or a .400 baseball hitter. But now I want to come back as the bond market. You can intimidate everybody."[33]
Financial markets are relentless. They can be impulsive and shallow in the short term in their reaction to news from Washington. They also have a bias against a booming economy. The ideal state of business for a bond holder is an expansion timid enough to dampen inflation and prevent rising interest rates, and falling bond values, but not so weak as to trigger default on debt contracts. But over the longer pull, it should also be said, financial markets may be more objective in judging presidential economic policy performance than other outside critics.
The sharp increase in rates following the announcement by the Carter administration in early 1980 that the deficit in the budget would be higher than the earlier forecast was due to a mix of Wall Street concerns. The larger deficit would require financing and force the Treasury to go to the market in competition for funds. It was also viewed as adding to inflationary pressure. In any event, the chaos in financial markets left the impression of an administration out of control.
So what can we take away from this little snippet? Do we reduce the deficit in the face of yet another liquidity crisis and risk further deleveraging and defaults... in an election year? NO!
Rather, it seems very clear to me that the administration will do everything in its power to put lipstick on the pig that is our economy. We've had a budget deficit for several years running, that doesn't seem to scare people as much as the prospects of losing their jobs, entitlements and value on their leveraged assets (homes).
Does the administration move to raise the deficit ceiling now or do we cross that bridge when we get there? I would think the administration wants to get this out of the way now as opposed to waiting until deep into the elections to raise the budget deficit.
In any case, the market is signaling that liquidity is needed NOW. So let's assume for a moment that the deficit ceiling will need to be raised... logically, well ahead of the elections so that it doesn't pop up when it matters the most. The Treasury Dept will need a market for their bonds and the Chinese (2nd largest buyers after the Fed) aren't buying.
So who makes the market? The FED of course! They're already buyers of 60% of net treasury issuances... which in turn means the FED will need to print more money! If not for the FED buying up the majority of new issuances, the interest rates would need to rise... which is an impossibility at this point. As Kyle Bass would say, "The Keynesian end point is Zero"... interest rates can not go up simply for the fact that the already ballooning deficit would go parabolic [moreso].
This market has proven time and again over the past 3 years that it CAN NOT grow absent intervention. Fed intervention has been the impetus for every rally and meltdown in the past 3 years. Can we risk another meltdown when Operation Twist ends in June? Don't think so... certainly not in an election year.
And make no mistake... the GOP will find a way to make this work for their agenda. INFLATION! They'll cry. They'll point to rising gas prices, food, whatever. Anything to spook the public and discredit the current administration. And as we know, managing THE PERCEPTION of inflation is half the battle. Inflation isn't simply the growth of money supply... it is the velocity of money and the velocity at which money moves is a function of psychology and the expectation of future inflation.


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Re: Obama to suffer same fate as Carter?
From Bill Gross:
On where he sees the 10-year at the end of 2012:
"I see it around 2%. It is dependent on the Fed continuing to buy 10-year Treasuries. It will be interesting in June to see what happens if the Fed stops writing checks. Basically the Fed says that this is a stock type of argument. It is really like a wine cellar. They have taken half of the wine out of the seller and now they basically said that at the end of June, it will be up to the private market to restock the wine cellar because it is empty. I basically take the flow view that says, hey, at 1.95%, not much of a value there. So let's see, if the Fed doesn't buy them, let's see who else will. It will be an interesting experiment at the end of June if the Fed does not do a quantitative easing, but for the moment, I think the 10-year stays at where it is."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/bill-gross-europes-dysfunction-and-us-double-dips
This is the right environment to give this a shot... Spanish bonds downgraded; China, Japan and Europe likely to start easing again, etc. The downside in dollar is limited here.
Re: Obama to suffer same fate as Carter?
This is the gold chart from 1979-1980... just saying:
Re: Obama to suffer same fate as Carter?
scottie; I don't need any more proof that Banks are running the country.I've as much as said that the Presidency is far weaker than the perception from the general public.That's been evident, since Nixon.(to me anyway). I've stated many times on PD that the plan was in motion when Obama entered office. I'm disappointed that more could not of been done to halt the powers of the FED ,which as you state ARE many of the Banks. What do you call it ? The Banks don't technically own the FED ,BUT..... they have favor from the FED that is supposedly to keep the system stable First off,. Glass Steagall has to be reinstated to it's absolute full power of 1933. Secondly, Why is it that an entity that is suppose to be owned by the Country? lends money to Commercial banks at .0%,so they supposedly can lend to the public (liquidity);,instead is allowed to INVEST in; Treasuries being paid higher interest than lent and to dable in debentures.If they fail (investments go badly),So what,they can get more from the FED. I'm disappointed the the Obama Administration did not break this nonsense but that's why I now realize just how big the problem is. Why anybody thinks Romney will make it better or do anything different is naive,to say the least. Recognition and understanding of the system by the average person can and will change this system . I think your assumptions on how this election might play out are correct. Romney will likely raise interest rates which will destroy any hope of a housing recovery ,but as far as that goes ,it's probably correct.Other than that ,business as usual with more International conflict. How does it effect our investments ???
Re: Obama to suffer same fate as Carter?
Hey Southpen. To be clear, I am not making any judgement as to what is right and wrong. I only suggest that this year's elections may play out similarly to what happened in 1980.
It appears to me that the current administration is boxed into a tough position. If they choose not to raise the deficit ceiling soonish, it's quite possible (and some postulate inevitable) that the treasury will run out of funds to support the various entitlement and stimulus programs before general elections and may have to come hat in hand during a most inconvenient time.
However, If the ceiling is lifted and further liquidity is allowed to be injected into the financial markets, this would give the GOP a platform to stoke inflation fears ahead of elections. The GOP knows that the economy is the number 1 issue of interest amongst the voting public and they'll leverage perceptions of fiscal ineptude against Obama.
I am of the mind that the administration has no choice, it must play the hand it's been dealt and must lift the budget deficit ceiling ahead of elections if Obama is to win the hearts and minds of his welfare state's voters and when he does, he will have played right into the GOP's trap.
To underscore my point: "Clinton's face turned red with anger and disbelief. 'You mean to tell me that the success of the program and my reelection hinges on the Federal Reserve and a bunch of . . . bond traders?'"
Now imagine if the Federal Reserve and the bond market were not to cooperate? What if the Treasury auctions off notes and the Fed isn't there to put in a bid? Rates would go up, bond markets would implode and the dollar would fall... in turn inflation would rise and the 1980s would play itself out once again and Obama would suffer the same fate as Carter. Remember, Carter was dealing with both an Iranian crisis as well as an inflation crisis... sound familiar?
Now, some might think I'm out to lunch with this wonky conspiracy theory. Why would the Fed and the Bond market act out against the will of the President? Well, we know that the banks want to repeal Dodd-Frank and Mitt Romney is their guy: Here and Here
But do the Banks pull the Fed's puppet strings? ... the answer is DUH!
See how the Fed does the banks bidding Here
You might ask me... is there any proof that the banks (Goldman Sachs, in particular) are engineering such an effort? Well... maybe some circumstantial proof:
"An update of the transactions from the SEC reveals that from October 1, 2011 through December 31, 2011, Credit Suisse sold 43 percent of those shares I highlighted above. Over the same period, Morgan Stanley, Barclays, Deutsche Bank, JP Morgan, and Goldman Sachs all sold between 24 and 60 percent of their shares. Goldman was the biggest seller. Theses six Federal Reserve Primary Dealers sold a total of 9,041,933 shares while the Fed was buying. That represents one-third of all shares outstanding.
The following table shows the respective sales:
Goldman Sachs stands out in particular relative to this group because in addition to the sales listed above, Goldman also purchased 1,971,964 shares of a product that makes money based on the falling prices of Treasuries. It’s a big bet that interest rates will rise. All of these shares were purchased between October 1, 2011 and December 31, 2011 and represent about 9 percent of all shares available. No other firm even comes close to this figure."
Want more proof? Here
Re: Obama to suffer same fate as Carter?
Agreed marty47, but the alternative might be worse. All we are doing is buying time . .if our standard of living and our dollar was greatly lowered ,we would become a mega economic exporter again,"maybe".Many peoples lives will be destroyed but the present system will fall apart if history is followed correctly. Another alternative is War. Choices are between financial disaster to some at our direction or financial disaster to most at someone elses direction. If it is brought about by another country ,then I think a war is enevitable. Too much resentment of foreigners buying up this country would cause the American public to become more hostile and treat economic superiority as invasion. Or we can restructure the country and put all people on a more even playing field.We can stop defending the American Industrial Complex ,which does not help 99% of Americans.Too much waste . Europeans will suffer far more and as social rule breaks down,stiff austerity measures will seem tame in comparison ,imo
Re: Obama to suffer same fate as Carter?
Not only is it not likely.. but America would likely burn in a series of the worst riots ever. the US is getting pushed closer to the brink and as I watch austerity measure protests across Eastern europe this morning, I fear violence awaits as it will soon come undone in the US.
Re: Obama to suffer same fate as Carter?
I don't see how the author can say, Carter's allowing interest rates to go up was ultimately wrong ,since the reverse is what's happening now and he says that's wrong,as well. Carter let interest rise to try to control inflation .He cut new military spending to ward off levels of austerity that were neccessary to keep the FED from selling more debt. It didn't work because ,he didn't get a second term .He would have gone a long way to repairing the economic disaster that, IS today. Carter was smarter than all Presidents in the last 50 years.That's not an opinion if measured by intelligence. He did not have a good Presidency because the deck was stacked against him when he entered .his policies required sacrifice ,that even today are being shelved by both parties. Reagan came in ,giving a false impression of 'the economy was fixable" and it was ,only most people never understood ,it was only a temporary fix. Kicking the can down the road started with Reagan and continues today. Obama is not doing what Carter tried to do (which was right),because he knows it's political suicide. You want to save the economy of the United States? Cut the Military budget in half by closing ALL bases Worldwide on foreign soil. Cut Government spending at all levels by permanently ending Pensions for all Government Employees ,including the President and end government involvement in subsidies and special tax rights which can only happen with an end to Corporate donations. Lets see someone win an election on that platform. Not likely ,YET !