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Southern Arc News...If anyone cares

Snowbird
+228-31

VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA--(Marketwire - Sept. 30, 2008) - Southern Arc Minerals Inc. (TSX VENTURE:SA) is pleased to announce the granting of a exploration license (Kuasa Pertambangan "KP") to the company, through its locally-controlled Indonesian entity, over part of the Wonogiri Regency, Central Java Province (Figure 1). The KP area Karangtengah (2,399 Ha) was previously explored by the state-owned company Timak Tbk (1998-2002) under a large super KP license. The KP license issued by the Wonogiri regency is valid for twelve months and can be extended for a further 12 months as part of the General Survey conditions of the license. Another two contiguous KP applications are in process.

Historical Dutch literature (Van Bemmelen, 1949) reports evidence of skarn mineralization, along with inferred porphyry style veining in the area. Previous site visits by Southern Arc personnel noted the presence of high sulfidation veining overprinting earlier porphyry mineralizing events, somewhat analogous to the Selodong Prospect.

The Company continues to be aggressive in evaluation and if warranted acquisition of properties along the southern Sunda-Banda island arc.

On behalf of the Board of Southern Arc Minerals Inc.

John Proust, President and CEO

To view Figure 1: Wonogiri KP Locality Plan, please click on the following link: http://media3.marketwire.com/docs/sa930f1.pdf.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT:

Southern Arc Minerals Inc. John G. Proust CEO (604) 676-5241 (604) 676-5246 (FAX) Email: info@southernarcminerals.com Website: www.southernarcminerals.com

The TSX Venture Exchange does not accept responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release.

marty47
+134-19

Re: Southern Arc News...If anyone cares

We look to be forming yet another bottom...

marty47
+134-19

Re: Southern Arc News...If anyone cares

Big gold plays should be a great play Grant I think things will turn out okay for SA and BHP

Snowbird
+228-31

Re: Southern Arc News...If anyone cares

mufflerr great post on that article. I read that on another thread and it makes sense to me. Gobble up all the big gold plays near production or in production.

grant1
+75-9

Re: BHP and the Cow.

Looks like the bottom has fallen out again, and that news from Indonesia looks less than encouraging. If BHP can't get a CoW, must leave you wondering if SA can??

macdougal
+46-0

BHP and the Cow.

Hi,

Interesting news from BHP today. Not sure how this could affect SA.

========= http://asia.news.yahoo.com/081114/4/3s3dy.html

JAKARTA, Nov 14 Asia Pulse - Australia's BHP Billiton (ASX:BHP) has cancelled US$4.5 billion nickel mine project in cooperation with state-owned mining company PT Aneka Tambang (Antam) (JSX:ANTM) in Buli, Halmahera Timur.

Implementation of the project was cancelled as it is not considered feasible, Antam corporate secretary Bimo Budi Satrijo said.

In addition BHP Billiton decided to cancel the investment plan over uncertainty in the agreement on working contract, Bimo said.

Nickel content in Halmahera, North Maluk, is too low, he said, adding, meanwhile the price of the metal has declined.

Under an agreement between Antam and BHP cooperation would be continued on condition that the working contract had been signed not later than Oct. 31, 2008, the newspaper Bisnis Indonesia said.

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A fellow Cow applicant has now left the field.

Did the Indonesian Government ignore BHP's "request" to sign the Cow by 31 Oct, refusing to be forced into action. Are they concentrating on the recent turmoil regarding the Bali bombers.

If someone dangled a 4.5 billion dollar carrot in front of me, I would sign it, tout suite.

Antam, possibly in an attempt to not lose face, say its cancelled because it's not feasible, BHP say its down to the Cow.

Will this spur the Indonesian government into action?

So many questions.... So few answers.....

All the best

Doug

marty47
+134-19

Re: The G-20’s Secret Debt Solution?

I am speechless. You are a true student of the finance world and one with a very constructive and potentially scary and overwhelming imagination.

Will be watching the G20 meeting and the events to follow alot closer than I had planned.

thank you for the piece

mufflerr
+38-3

The G-20’s Secret Debt Solution?

The G-20’s Secret Debt Solution by Larry Edelson 11-13-08

If you think this weekend’s G-20 meetings in Washington are only about designing short-term fixes to the financial system and regulatory reforms for banks, hedge funds, brokers, mortgage companies and investment banks … think again. Behind the scenes, a far more fundamental fix is being discussed — the possible revaluation of gold and the birth of an entirely new monetary system. I’ve been studying this issue in great depth, all my life. And given the speed at which the financial crisis is unfolding, I would be very surprised if what I’m about to tell you now is not on the G-20 table this weekend. Furthermore, I believe the end result will make my $2,270 price target for gold look conservative, to say the least. You’ll see why in a minute. First, the G-20’s motive for a new monetary system: It’s driven by and based upon this very simple proposition …

“If we can’t print money fast enough to fend off another deflationary Great Depression, then let’s change the value of the money.”

I call it …

The G-20 may propose devaluing all currencies, including the U.S. dollar and the euro. “The G-20’s Secret Debt Solution” It would be a strategy designed to ease the burden of ALL debts — by simultaneously devaluing ALL currencies … and re-inflating ALL asset prices. That’s what central banks and governments around the world are going to start talking about this weekend — a new financial order that includes new monetary units that helps to wipe clean the world’s debt ledgers. It won’t be an easy deal to broker, since the U.S. is the world’s largest debtor. But remember: Debts are now going bad all over the world. So everyone would benefit. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke … Treasury Secretary Paulson … President Bush … President-elect Obama … former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker … Warren Buffett … and central bankers and politicians all over the world agree a new monetary system is needed.

So they’ll start hashing out the details to get the new financial architecture deployed as quickly as possible. If you think I’m crazy or propagating some kind of conspiracy theory, then consider the historical precedent … To end the Great Depression in 1933 Franklin Roosevelt devalued the dollar via Executive Order #6102, confiscating gold and raising its price 69.3%, effectively kick starting asset reflation. Only this time, it won’t be just the U.S. that devalues its currency. The world is too interconnected. Instead, the world’s leading countries will propose a simultaneous and universal currency devaluation. This time, they will NOT confiscate gold. There would be riots all over the globe if they even mentioned the “C” word. But they don’t have to confiscate gold. Here’s one scenario … They cease all gold sales and instead, raise the current official central bank price of gold from its booked value of $42.22 an ounce — to a price that monetizes a large enough portion of the world’s outstanding debts. That way, just like in 1933, the debts become a fraction of re-inflated asset prices (led higher by the gold price). And this time, instead of staying with the dollar as a reserve currency, the G-20 issues three new monetary units of exchange, each with equal reserve status. The three currencies will essentially be a new dollar, new euro, and a new pan-Asian currency. (The Chinese yuan may survive as a fourth currency, but it will be linked to a basket of the three new currencies.) The new fiat monetary units would be worth less than the old ones. For instance, it could take 10 new units of money to buy 1 old dollar or euro. New names would be given to the new currencies to help rid the world of the ghost of a system that failed. Additional regulations and programs would be designed and implemented to ease the transition to a new monetary system.

The IMF would be at the center of the new monetary system.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) would implement the new financial system in conjunction with central banks and governments around the world. Keep in mind that the IMF is already set up to handle the transition, and has had contingency plans allowing for it since the institution was formed in 1944. Included in the design and transition to a new monetary system … A. A new fixed-rate currency regime. Immediately upon upping the price of gold and introducing the new currencies, a new fixed exchange rate system would be re-introduced. The floating exchange rate system would be tossed into the dust bin along with the old currencies. This would kill any speculation about further devaluations in the currency markets, and drastically reduce market volatility. B. To sell the program to savers and protect them from the currency devaluation, compensatory measures would be enacted. For instance, a one-time windfall tax-free deposit could be issued by governments directly to citizens’ accounts, or, to employer-sponsored pensions, to IRAs, or Social Security accounts. Income taxes may subsequently be raised to pay for the give-away, or a nominal global type of sales tax could be enacted to help pay for the new system and the compensatory measures. C. Additional programs would be designed to protect lenders and creditors. Lenders stand a much higher chance of getting paid off under the new monetary system — but with a currency whose purchasing power would now be a fraction of what it was when the loans were originated. So programs would have to be designed to help lenders offset the inflationary costs of their devalued loans, probably via the tax code. Naturally, all this is a bit more complicated than I’ve spelled out above. But that gives you a big-picture outline of what the plan could look like. And I think major changes like these are going to be set in motion at this weekend’s G-20 meetings in Washington. Would they work? Yes. They would help avoid a repeat of the deflationary Great Depression. But don’t expect even a new monetary system to put the U.S. or the global economy back on track toward the high rates of real growth that we’ve seen over the last several years. That’s simply not going to happen. Not for a while.

Instead, I’m talking about a massive asset price reflation, negative real economic growth in the U.S. and Europe — but continued real GDP gains in Asia. The Big Question: What gold price would be legislated to reflate the U.S. and global economy? I can’t tell you what gold price the G-20 would ultimately agree to. But here’s what they will be looking at …

To monetize 100% of the outstanding public and private sector debt in the U.S., the official government price of gold would have to be raised to about $53,000 per ounce.

To monetize 50%, the price of gold would have to be raised to around $26,500 an ounce.

To monetize 20% would require a gold price a hair over $10,600 an ounce.

To monetize just 10%, gold would have to be priced just over $5,300 an ounce. Those figures are just based on the U.S. debt structure and do not factor in global debts gone bad. But since the U.S. is the world’s largest debtor and the epicenter of the crisis, the G-20 will likely base their final decision mostly on the U.S. debt structure. So how much debt do I think would be monetized via an executive order that raises the official price of gold? What kind of currency devaluation would I expect as a result? I would not be surprised to see the G-20 monetize at least 20% of the U.S. debt markets. THAT MEANS …

Gold would be priced at over $10,000 an ounce.

Currencies would be devalued by a factor of at least 12 to 1, meaning it would take 12 new dollars or euros to equal 1 old dollar or euro. The return of the Gold Standard? “But Larry,” you ask, “how could this be accomplished when we no longer have a gold standard? Further, are you advocating a gold standard?”

If the G-20 monetizes at least 20% of the U.S. debt markets, gold could easily hit $10,000 an ounce.

My answers: First, you don’t need a gold standard to accomplish a devaluation of currencies and revaluation of the monetary system. By offering to pay over $10,000 an ounce for gold, central banks can effectively accomplish the same end goal — monetizing and reducing the burden of debts, via inflating asset prices in fiat money terms. Naturally, hoards of gold investors will cash in their gold. The central banks will pile it up. At the same time, other hoards of investors will not sell their gold, even at $10,000 an ounce. But the actual movement of the gold will not matter. It is the psychological impact and the devaluation of paper currencies that matters. Second, I do NOT advocate a fully convertible gold standard. Never have. There isn’t enough gold in the world to make currencies convertible into gold. It would end up backfiring, restricting the supply of money and credit. What should you do to prepare for these possibilities? It’s obvious: Make sure you own some core gold, as much as 25% of your investable funds. Also, as I’ve noted in past Money and Markets issues, you will want to own key natural resource stocks, and even select blue-chip stocks that will participate in the reflation scheme.

marty47
+134-19

Re: "I gotta have more cowbell!"

Copper has plummeted - and so are we. Supply for this metal is limitless. I am beginning to wonder if this stock will ever trade above $1 dollar again.

marty47
+134-19

Re: "I gotta have more cowbell!"

Muffler you are halarious and very clever! I missed that the first time. CoW - COW, how silly do I feel.

A great analogy and the ONLY prescription is for the CoW to go down, thanks for the laugh,

Melodyfan
+744-90

Re: Southern Arc News...If anyone cares

Lol!! Nice skit. I love ferrell!!

Unfortunately muffler I don't think the CoW will have much of an effect on the stock price at this time. It might almost be a blessing in disguise if they don't announce it until about 6 months down the road. Copper is in the toilet with many other commodities as you all know. Nothing right now will have the effect we want on the price. Long term outlook at this point for Southern Arc. Maybe 2 to 3 years.

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